« Reply #116 on: November 21, 2011 at 11:18:42 PM »
While I don't understand this either, I can buy Rob and Kristen as best friends the same why I can buy two people that became close during a natural disaster as best friends.
The fact that it seems that Rob and Kristen seem to be almost like two ships passing in the night at this apartment is probably because they are. Given that every other one of his London-based friends seems to be in serious relationships it actually makes sense to stay with Kristen and her band of merry men instead of booking a hotel or staying with his parents. I could be wrong, obviously, but it seems like he stores his luggage there for a few days and he goes off and does his own thing and she does hers because I don't believe for a second that while he is in London where all of his friends, family and favorite pubs are he is going to be sitting inside an apartment all day alone.
ETA:
While I have an increasingly low opinion of Bill Condon and the promo skills the he learned at The Catherine Hardwicke School of Selling Your Soul to Sell a Movie, even I don't think he would stoop that low. Honestly though, at this point his intent doesn't matter because the damage is done. The sheep are now convinced that he and Melissa are dropping hints about all the hot sex that Rob and Kristen have that they apparently know all about.
The fact that it seems that Rob and Kristen seem to be almost like two ships passing in the night at this apartment is probably because they are. Given that every other one of his London-based friends seems to be in serious relationships it actually makes sense to stay with Kristen and her band of merry men instead of booking a hotel or staying with his parents. I could be wrong, obviously, but it seems like he stores his luggage there for a few days and he goes off and does his own thing and she does hers because I don't believe for a second that while he is in London where all of his friends, family and favorite pubs are he is going to be sitting inside an apartment all day alone.
ETA:
While I have an increasingly low opinion of Bill Condon and the promo skills the he learned at The Catherine Hardwicke School of Selling Your Soul to Sell a Movie, even I don't think he would stoop that low. Honestly though, at this point his intent doesn't matter because the damage is done. The sheep are now convinced that he and Melissa are dropping hints about all the hot sex that Rob and Kristen have that they apparently know all about.
« Reply #118 on: November 21, 2011 at 11:24:16 PM »
I felt the same way. The way they're selling the sex scenes is actually starting to turn me off. It was never that big of a thing in the book and from the sounds of it it isn't in the movie so why the hard sell? SMH.
I agree there seems to be more than one apartment in the block. As far as I'm concerned over the lack of seeing each other over the summer, the behaviour during promo and responses to direct statements about their relationship, this just looks stupid now.
I agree there seems to be more than one apartment in the block. As far as I'm concerned over the lack of seeing each other over the summer, the behaviour during promo and responses to direct statements about their relationship, this just looks stupid now.
« Reply #119 on: November 21, 2011 at 11:29:10 PM »
I find this pretty inappropriate of them, tbh.
You have this private couple. So private that they refuse to admit a relationship to the public.
Yet you have a director, screenwriter, producer all talking about their private lives to anyone who will listen. It's bad enough for them to discuss this private relationship to promote the movie, but then to cross over the line into their sex life as well...WTF?
Yet you have a director, screenwriter, producer all talking about their private lives to anyone who will listen. It's bad enough for them to discuss this private relationship to promote the movie, but then to cross over the line into their sex life as well...WTF?
« Reply #121 on: November 21, 2011 at 11:49:01 PM »
Quote from: Sony782009 on November 21, 2011 at 10:40:43 AM
I had a quick look at some shipper site (hangs head in shame ) and there were three "new pics of KS in London, November 21st" where you had a glimpse of the white entrance with the same door bells and plate for the security code (at least it looks like the same we got in the pics of Rob from Saturday)
People talked about how the intercom placement was different, and that it was not from a papp agency, a private all got that picture taken. I posted this on the 17th, I am sure these things were noticed by plenty of other people on social media...See my green highlight:
So, I'd say these new pics, if they show the same intercom placement, put us at step #5, in my list of "classic [social media] PR fuckery pattern." First pic of her there, was #1, her at white London residence. #4 is pic of Rob at white London residence, with something that doesn't work (intercom, no papp). This gets to two pics=R'sten living together? #5 is a pic for skeptics--what didn't "fly" in the first set of pics "fixed". Take that skeptics!
Only fear I have is there needs to be a pic of them together. So maybe we're going to see a set like the last time by white residences, put a bunch together, they aren't together, but it will be all billed as same day, same place, story of where they were coming or going. I am kind of expecting some sort of luggage "script." Not an orgy, but something that speaks to the luggage movement.
So, I'd say these new pics, if they show the same intercom placement, put us at step #5, in my list of "classic [social media] PR fuckery pattern." First pic of her there, was #1, her at white London residence. #4 is pic of Rob at white London residence, with something that doesn't work (intercom, no papp). This gets to two pics=R'sten living together? #5 is a pic for skeptics--what didn't "fly" in the first set of pics "fixed". Take that skeptics!
Only fear I have is there needs to be a pic of them together. So maybe we're going to see a set like the last time by white residences, put a bunch together, they aren't together, but it will be all billed as same day, same place, story of where they were coming or going. I am kind of expecting some sort of luggage "script." Not an orgy, but something that speaks to the luggage movement.
« Reply #124 on: November 21, 2011 at 12:15:08 PM »
It's the irony. It's what jars with their words. You have Rob saying "I'd never hide a girlfriend or relationship. Lies always just end up coming out. My private life is not for sale." And then you have Kristen saying "I don't talk about it because this is mine! I'm selfish! It's all mine!" Really? How is that working out for you? Because you have Summit and the director and writer whoring you out. You have the interviewers whoring you out and you have the fans writing confessions about you and whoring you out. Acting as if they will tell you what you feel for one another.
It's everything but "mine" and "theirs."
It's everything but "mine" and "theirs."
« Reply #126 on: November 21, 2011 at 12:23:17 PM »
Now would be a good time for Rob to be papped somewhere other than in London 
« Reply #128 on: November 21, 2011 at 12:29:03 PM »
It sounds like it's taken out of context to me. There just two random quote. Depending on the question, which we don't know, I guess we'll never know.
« Reply #129 on: November 21, 2011 at 12:31:36 PM »
They are always trying to over compensate, if it was natural you'd let it just be, no couple needs this much fuel added to the fire unless your trying to prove to everyone something is real
If Bill and Melissa who have spent sooo much time with the epice private couple would they really say this about their friends, hell they wouldn't say it about some actors in general because the footage can show you the world's greatest sex- but alas BD1 sex scenes were tame and well boring
People in general would probably see bits of inteviews like that but not actually BD1 itself: perception> reality
« Reply #130 on: November 21, 2011 at 12:32:37 PM »
Okay, about the PA's striking confession that caused an earthquake in sheep's bedrooms: the part where she compliments Kristen and can't seem to find her any flaw when Rob is charmingly idiot is very telling. I won't even talk about Nikki's part and the perfect solving of the triangle (no Rob didn't sleep with another girl but Kristen. He actually saved himself for her since he watched Panic room) just makes it the ideal Prsten fairytale.
What I don't understand is, if Rob is that unperfect, then why do they want him to be with amazingly astounding Kristen? She would deserve better after all. And that only proves how they see Bella and Edward in htem.
Concerning the last picture:or this is building with many flats (that's the way it looks since we could see a big door -maybe an elevator- behind Rob when he was yawning), or Rob is already gone. And that, the paps wouldn't show us that. They want everyone to believe there was a reunion. Maybe we'll even soon get a sighting in LA or something. Let's see.
What I don't understand is, if Rob is that unperfect, then why do they want him to be with amazingly astounding Kristen? She would deserve better after all. And that only proves how they see Bella and Edward in htem.
Concerning the last picture:or this is building with many flats (that's the way it looks since we could see a big door -maybe an elevator- behind Rob when he was yawning), or Rob is already gone. And that, the paps wouldn't show us that. They want everyone to believe there was a reunion. Maybe we'll even soon get a sighting in LA or something. Let's see.
« Reply #264 on: November 21, 2011, 08:42:16 PM »
Same mess, different day. Creepy pics of them entering an apartment building where we have seen others entering and exiting with luggage. The building can't possibly be rented by the studio. And to answer timbins question, not everything is pr sometimes it is a case of exploiting the opportunity. At this point, it has been eternity and some years. The public thinks they are together or that they are bearding, why not let the cat out of the bag? These pics, like most, feed a certain rabid base. Something as innocent as dinner can be misconstrued. Hell, two weeks ago everyone and their Mama had JLo with B. Cooper, turns out, it was business.
You can twist and manipulate anything you want because we live in a 30 second soundbite world. Pictures can be manipulated to tell whatever story one is attempting sell. I've always said, this "relationship" be it friends, ffwb, costar, lovers, etc has been about convenience. The media and fans spin the draddle, Summit helps it along and the two main players do their part. Do I think Shrew is an opportunist? Yes. She's an actor. Nothing about her is genuine. For him, he strikes me as trying toive his life the best he can, but really can he? Shit happens when you are young and stupid, when you take a risk and it pays off. There are always repercussions.
And before our blind mole-y friend attempts to manipulate ny words, allow me to reiterate, everything is pr. Good press, bad press so long as no press. Hollywood is a game, either you are winning by playing, winning by, cheating, or simply a lucky bastard, you still have to play the game. There are no rules. Survival is limited. Everything is perception, see what you want. I personally don't buy what's being sold, because I have assisted the magicians back when I was green and believed in magic. Now, it's easier than ever to fool an inattentive public and a naive group of bored housewives. Soap Operas have been doing it for years.
You can twist and manipulate anything you want because we live in a 30 second soundbite world. Pictures can be manipulated to tell whatever story one is attempting sell. I've always said, this "relationship" be it friends, ffwb, costar, lovers, etc has been about convenience. The media and fans spin the draddle, Summit helps it along and the two main players do their part. Do I think Shrew is an opportunist? Yes. She's an actor. Nothing about her is genuine. For him, he strikes me as trying toive his life the best he can, but really can he? Shit happens when you are young and stupid, when you take a risk and it pays off. There are always repercussions.
And before our blind mole-y friend attempts to manipulate ny words, allow me to reiterate, everything is pr. Good press, bad press so long as no press. Hollywood is a game, either you are winning by playing, winning by, cheating, or simply a lucky bastard, you still have to play the game. There are no rules. Survival is limited. Everything is perception, see what you want. I personally don't buy what's being sold, because I have assisted the magicians back when I was green and believed in magic. Now, it's easier than ever to fool an inattentive public and a naive group of bored housewives. Soap Operas have been doing it for years.
« Reply #268 on: November 21, 2011, 08:50:32 PM »
So we finally see them actually going into the same place together though weirdly right after we say, why are they never seen there together 
I'm sure it had nothing to do with us but it's funny how often we are able to predict these things happening.
Anyway, I am still not convinced about the epic love. Maybe I am just stubborn but the day that I believe these two are together is the day they both stop acting like fucking idiots about it and own up to it properly. It isn't some big state secret, no one dies if the world finds out they are together,there is no need for this shit. I still don't see how this is absolute proof, staying in the same place and seeing someone perform together doesn't exactly equal true love.
Also what is with the hoodies up etc. They know that they are being photographed at that entrance so why bother. It always seems to me that they get into this little competion together about who hates the attention more and so they start being ridiculous when they are around each other to prove who hates it more. This seems to be a big thing with them, proving to each other how much they hate it by bitchfacing paps etc, Rob included. It always looks to me like this is one of the things they have bonded over. The "oh my god, no one knows how hard this is for us" thing. It is strange and unhealthy IMO, this is just my read on the situation though, who knows
though weirdly right after we say, why are they never seen there together I'm sure it had nothing to do with us but it's funny how often we are able to predict these things happening.Anyway, I am still not convinced about the epic love. Maybe I am just stubborn but the day that I believe these two are together is the day they both stop acting like fucking idiots about it and own up to it properly. It isn't some big state secret, no one dies if the world finds out they are together,there is no need for this shit. I still don't see how this is absolute proof, staying in the same place and seeing someone perform together doesn't exactly equal true love.
Also what is with the hoodies up etc. They know that they are being photographed at that entrance so why bother. It always seems to me that they get into this little competion together about who hates the attention more and so they start being ridiculous when they are around each other to prove who hates it more. This seems to be a big thing with them, proving to each other how much they hate it by bitchfacing paps etc, Rob included. It always looks to me like this is one of the things they have bonded over. The "oh my god, no one knows how hard this is for us" thing. It is strange and unhealthy IMO, this is just my read on the situation though, who knows
« Reply #269 on: November 21, 2011, 08:57:14 PM »
Huh. Creepy pictures from the SAME EXACT ANGLE as previous creepy pictures, only always getting them leaving or entering alone before, now suddenly gets them entering together? And still no pap tags, no sourcing by the posting sites, and the imagebam gallery link says 'UPLOADED FOR RPL AND KSN'?
Well that's not suspicious at all. Nope. Not at all.
Well that's not suspicious at all. Nope. Not at all.
« Reply #311 on: November 22, 2011 at 12:31:35 AM »
All I can think when I look at those pictures is....
1. Why is Rob way in the back? What's with these two not walking together? Friends can do that I think. But Rob is bringing up the rear in the introvert train. All hands in the pockets, all "Ho hum....I could use a cheeseburger. I miss Bear."
2. I just see Kristen opening the door all "Hey HBG! Hey El Bano! We're home!"
3. Why does this girl have no females around her? Like ever? I mean yes, I know she has her BFF Jessica but she's gay---and you know that can be seen as strange. Then Dakota, but Dakota is only around when she happens to be filming something. And the porn star who is never around but Kristen name drops. Even when they get her on sets like SWATH she's always hanging with the men. When she does Twilight stuff, all the men and the women all avoid her like "awkward, I'll go sit by some other women." Is it because she feels them up? Dry humps them?
1. Why is Rob way in the back? What's with these two not walking together? Friends can do that I think. But Rob is bringing up the rear in the introvert train. All hands in the pockets, all "Ho hum....I could use a cheeseburger. I miss Bear."
2. I just see Kristen opening the door all "Hey HBG! Hey El Bano! We're home!"
3. Why does this girl have no females around her? Like ever? I mean yes, I know she has her BFF Jessica but she's gay---and you know that can be seen as strange. Then Dakota, but Dakota is only around when she happens to be filming something. And the porn star who is never around but Kristen name drops. Even when they get her on sets like SWATH she's always hanging with the men. When she does Twilight stuff, all the men and the women all avoid her like "awkward, I'll go sit by some other women." Is it because she feels them up? Dry humps them?
« Reply #314 on: November 22, 2011 at 01:26:56 AM »
Exactly. And Kristen was first papped there after Rob so it's clear that it's not a coincidence. Besides, we still don't know whose house that is and who rented it. If Rob and Kristen were living there together, then we would've had some pics from when he went to London for the christening. He stayed there two weeks and we didn't get any pics of either him or Kristen with the house. The pics started with BD promo.
I've never seen a producer and director more pathetic and delusional than Godfrey and Condon
Aren't they done saying the same BS in every single interview? The movie isn't about a sex scene or the actors' real lives, so they should stick to promoting it while talking about the characters and the story. And besides, after having seen the movie, I can say that that scene wasn't "hot" at all. It was a normal scene and it's clear from the way they put it in the movie that they wanted to make it appear less flat than it was. Otherwise they would've shows a continuous scene instead of letting us see a fragmented scene.Also, let's not forget that we've already seen that PR for these movies doesn't end with the official movie promo. It keeps going in between the movies' releases, so I'm not taking anything as proof until BD2 comes out in DVD. Until then Kristen will keep making her cryptic remarks and mentioning Rob whenever she can, and we'll have these kinds of pics that show nothing but that everyone take advantage of to write their own made up BS stories.
« Reply #321 on: November 22, 2011 at 03:23:51 AM »
That is strange she looks exactly the same in both sets. And no more talk about them not knowing the paps are camping out, they're practically in the car with her.
I still think this is the strangest thing ever. You know, I may be old fashioned and a fuddy-duddy but I know I wouldn't take "Fuck you in the face" from my kids or if I said that to my mother I'd been slapped right across my face and I certainly wouldn't take that from significant other. If the guy I was dating said that to me? He can keep walking right out that door. I know the shippers claim fuck you is the new love you and they always say it to the people they love, but I don't know? And if something was mega important to me and I was waxing poetically about it and the guy I am in love with starts laughing about something that obviously means a lot to me ( see the EW article with Kristen going on and on about the Graumen's ceremony) I'd not be too amused. I'd be hurt. If the person I loved said "You've got shit on your face. You look like a fool." I'd take it as an offense. Nor would I be too amused that my boyfriend is on national TV saying I made the love scene R rated due to my actions and mocking the shit out of it.
I have one friend who I do act this way with--note *friend* but I can tell you this is a person whom I don't share anything deep and lasting with. Like we don't sit down and talk deep emotional stuff. Everything is very superficial and that's fine because that is what our relationship has always been. We love each other, I was maid of honor at her wedding, but we're not all mushy.
You know who also acts like that? Siblings. I have a set of friends who are twin brother and sister. These two mock the shit out of each other non-stop and have a tendency to say "dude" to one another often. They do plenty of eye rolling and side eying and making fun of one another. Do they love each other? Of course. They would go to the ends of the Earth for one another, but they act like siblings sort of like Rob and Kristen.
Rob seems to take a great amount of fun in making her mad. That may be signs of "He likes you and doesn't know how to tell you so he torments you and pulls your hair" but after two years? Time to move on from that stage.
They just seem so juvenile and immature. They're eye rolling and mocking and poking fun. Like if Rob fell down a flight of stairs, I imagine Kristen to be the first one there laughing and saying "You stupid ass!" When Rob mentions her it's usually to talk about how annoyed she was with him when he did this or said that.
Wouldn't you be proud of your romantic partner? I don't get why Kristen spends all her time basically talking down Rob or trying to put him in his place. Or correcting him (You don't feel that way....he doesn't feel that way. Stop saying that.) It's all about how he didn't take this seriously...(the pussy part in EW) or how he's a wishy-washy intellectual. She talks about how he mocks her accent and makes fun of it how when they did the photoshoot for EW he was in the mirror constantly messing with his hair (hinting at his vanity). She's made fun of how when he wins something he acts like an idiot. She does somewhat compliment him on his music, but I think if she could get away with "Dude should take some singing lessons." she would. When she mentions her trumpet playing she immediately says "But Rob can't do it!" What does that have to do with anything? He was being nice and mentioning a compliment to you but she rarely takes them without making a disparaging remark back. When Martha Stewart complimented him, she said "do you want me to hook you up?" and when Rob is complimented on her he does a *stare* and that's it. Never a "thank you, I am lucky" or "Thanks." or "I think so too."
So either they're in a very immature relationship that hasn't seemed to move past the first stage or they're what we suspect, co-workers, friends but not the kind that really involve themselves deeply with one another. They're very surface. She does seem to be a bit more in depth with Taylor though--she doesn't seem to have issues saying she loves him and compliments him.
And what makes it more strange? She never ever did this to Mike, the boyfriend. She always complimented him. Talked about how amazing he was in acting, how he was her best friend. How much she loved and needed him. You never saw her say "Dude, he's like in the mirror all *pull face mess with hair*." or "Mike, you have shit on your face. You look like a fool!" She and Mike were together and they treated one another like they gave a damn if they hurt each other's feelings. And look at Rob's sister when she was asked about him...she's obviously proud of his achievements and told the interviewer he was one of the most determined people she knew and how smart he was. Kristen would have been all "Dude...he's like I dunno...like a wishy washy intellectual that like is cool."
I know I may be old and not with the times anymore, but I think the shippers just make everything about them about love because they have no choice. They don't get any depth to them, any "I am so proud of Rob for his work, he blows me away. He inspires me. I love him, he's my friend, my rock and I am lucky to have him in my life." So they're forced to be all "Dude is the new sweetheart!" or "Fuck you means love." or "Fuck you in the face is actually foreplay." I know Rob could be a total fuckwit and not a serious guy, but you constantly hear his other acquaintance co-stars talk about how lovely, warm, genuine, humble, serious and gracious he is. Only the love of his life is all "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on Dude. " And he seems to be coming off as a sentimental great guy so I don't know.
I don't know. I just don't know.
I still think this is the strangest thing ever. You know, I may be old fashioned and a fuddy-duddy but I know I wouldn't take "Fuck you in the face" from my kids or if I said that to my mother I'd been slapped right across my face and I certainly wouldn't take that from significant other. If the guy I was dating said that to me? He can keep walking right out that door. I know the shippers claim fuck you is the new love you and they always say it to the people they love, but I don't know? And if something was mega important to me and I was waxing poetically about it and the guy I am in love with starts laughing about something that obviously means a lot to me ( see the EW article with Kristen going on and on about the Graumen's ceremony) I'd not be too amused. I'd be hurt. If the person I loved said "You've got shit on your face. You look like a fool." I'd take it as an offense. Nor would I be too amused that my boyfriend is on national TV saying I made the love scene R rated due to my actions and mocking the shit out of it.
I have one friend who I do act this way with--note *friend* but I can tell you this is a person whom I don't share anything deep and lasting with. Like we don't sit down and talk deep emotional stuff. Everything is very superficial and that's fine because that is what our relationship has always been. We love each other, I was maid of honor at her wedding, but we're not all mushy.
You know who also acts like that? Siblings. I have a set of friends who are twin brother and sister. These two mock the shit out of each other non-stop and have a tendency to say "dude" to one another often. They do plenty of eye rolling and side eying and making fun of one another. Do they love each other? Of course. They would go to the ends of the Earth for one another, but they act like siblings sort of like Rob and Kristen.
Rob seems to take a great amount of fun in making her mad. That may be signs of "He likes you and doesn't know how to tell you so he torments you and pulls your hair" but after two years? Time to move on from that stage.
They just seem so juvenile and immature. They're eye rolling and mocking and poking fun. Like if Rob fell down a flight of stairs, I imagine Kristen to be the first one there laughing and saying "You stupid ass!" When Rob mentions her it's usually to talk about how annoyed she was with him when he did this or said that.
Wouldn't you be proud of your romantic partner? I don't get why Kristen spends all her time basically talking down Rob or trying to put him in his place. Or correcting him (You don't feel that way....he doesn't feel that way. Stop saying that.) It's all about how he didn't take this seriously...(the pussy part in EW) or how he's a wishy-washy intellectual. She talks about how he mocks her accent and makes fun of it how when they did the photoshoot for EW he was in the mirror constantly messing with his hair (hinting at his vanity). She's made fun of how when he wins something he acts like an idiot. She does somewhat compliment him on his music, but I think if she could get away with "Dude should take some singing lessons." she would. When she mentions her trumpet playing she immediately says "But Rob can't do it!" What does that have to do with anything? He was being nice and mentioning a compliment to you but she rarely takes them without making a disparaging remark back. When Martha Stewart complimented him, she said "do you want me to hook you up?" and when Rob is complimented on her he does a *stare* and that's it. Never a "thank you, I am lucky" or "Thanks." or "I think so too."
So either they're in a very immature relationship that hasn't seemed to move past the first stage or they're what we suspect, co-workers, friends but not the kind that really involve themselves deeply with one another. They're very surface. She does seem to be a bit more in depth with Taylor though--she doesn't seem to have issues saying she loves him and compliments him.
And what makes it more strange? She never ever did this to Mike, the boyfriend. She always complimented him. Talked about how amazing he was in acting, how he was her best friend. How much she loved and needed him. You never saw her say "Dude, he's like in the mirror all *pull face mess with hair*." or "Mike, you have shit on your face. You look like a fool!" She and Mike were together and they treated one another like they gave a damn if they hurt each other's feelings. And look at Rob's sister when she was asked about him...she's obviously proud of his achievements and told the interviewer he was one of the most determined people she knew and how smart he was. Kristen would have been all "Dude...he's like I dunno...like a wishy washy intellectual that like is cool."
I know I may be old and not with the times anymore, but I think the shippers just make everything about them about love because they have no choice. They don't get any depth to them, any "I am so proud of Rob for his work, he blows me away. He inspires me. I love him, he's my friend, my rock and I am lucky to have him in my life." So they're forced to be all "Dude is the new sweetheart!" or "Fuck you means love." or "Fuck you in the face is actually foreplay." I know Rob could be a total fuckwit and not a serious guy, but you constantly hear his other acquaintance co-stars talk about how lovely, warm, genuine, humble, serious and gracious he is. Only the love of his life is all "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on Dude. " And he seems to be coming off as a sentimental great guy so I don't know.
I don't know. I just don't know.
« Reply #324 on: November 22, 2011 at 04:44:11 AM »
IKR? That's the only way 
can explain their luv, RK do all the things people in a real relationships doesn't, so what really means love they turn out in fake, remember when used to say Joe Jonas and Ashley relationship was PR just because they let people see they were kissing, how Tom and Sienna Miller was fake because they were displaying PDA so much? See, they made up things up to make their statement look believable, to explain why RK don't act like a couple, they give excuses for why the bitch always mock him and how he doesn't take serious the questions about the PR romance. They live in opposite day, every single day!
And about the pics, it's old news, we've seen this before, every year it's the same thing, they are seen in the same appartment, people take pics of the rooms and bathroom so
can twirl thinking how they have vampire sex in the large bed or the tube, etc. But what's so common in all of this? It's always in promo time. I don't buy this, and Rob is far away from her, so closed, like he wished he was in a warm bed with bear than with her black cloud presence.
can explain their luv, RK do all the things people in a real relationships doesn't, so what really means love they turn out in fake, remember when used to say Joe Jonas and Ashley relationship was PR just because they let people see they were kissing, how Tom and Sienna Miller was fake because they were displaying PDA so much? See, they made up things up to make their statement look believable, to explain why RK don't act like a couple, they give excuses for why the bitch always mock him and how he doesn't take serious the questions about the PR romance. They live in opposite day, every single day!And about the pics, it's old news, we've seen this before, every year it's the same thing, they are seen in the same appartment, people take pics of the rooms and bathroom so
can twirl thinking how they have vampire sex in the large bed or the tube, etc. But what's so common in all of this? It's always in promo time. I don't buy this, and Rob is far away from her, so closed, like he wished he was in a warm bed with bear than with her black cloud presence.« Reply #338 on: November 22, 2011 at 07:21:03 AM »
What do I think are the odds we're being used a free- 24/7 focus group for Summit and Ruth and ideas for PR? 99.8%. Although, these pics are like with New Moon and Eclipse, there's some "date" or something after promo is "done." So it might have been in a contract ages ago for BD1 promo. This always happens right after a shoot (WFE in NY anyone?), or promo, movie "date" after Eclipse just out, anyone?
Summit doesn't want this movie to drop like stone this weekend with lots of movie competition. Promo is REALLY important NOW. Heck, I went to "The Descendents" last weekend, will see "A Dangerous Method" in a couple of days, then I want to see "Hugo." I haven't seen BD and I went to the midnight shows for the last two.
But you know what I did after someone texted me about the pic last night? I kept on reading about "A Dangerous Method." There's all the stuff Cronenberg is saying about Rob. About how the guy is a cog in the machine with the Twilight movies. He's right. Rob doesn't have 100% freedom of choice in all this. There's a reason the guy keeps saying it's really important to him to have more control. He said during WFE, as an actor doing a multi-film franchise like this, you'd think the actor would have more control, but he has less.
So, like I am supposed to be worried about Rob's image from obvious franchise marketing when I read stuff like this from Cronenberg?http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/11/20/david-cronenberg-on-a-dangerous-method-robert-pattinson-s-acting-and-s-m-with-keira-knightley.html
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/david-cronenberg-says-twilight-fans-will-be-blown-away-by-robert-pattinson-in-cosmopolis#
The only "involvement" in this movie and fandom I had last night was some reading on Rob-only fan sites, and listening to my neighbor tell me about her group of women friends who are Twilight fanatics seeing the movie, liking it of course, but saying Kristen Stewart still isn't much of an actress and there's no chemisty. Rob is going to be fine.
Summit doesn't want this movie to drop like stone this weekend with lots of movie competition. Promo is REALLY important NOW. Heck, I went to "The Descendents" last weekend, will see "A Dangerous Method" in a couple of days, then I want to see "Hugo." I haven't seen BD and I went to the midnight shows for the last two.
But you know what I did after someone texted me about the pic last night? I kept on reading about "A Dangerous Method." There's all the stuff Cronenberg is saying about Rob. About how the guy is a cog in the machine with the Twilight movies. He's right. Rob doesn't have 100% freedom of choice in all this. There's a reason the guy keeps saying it's really important to him to have more control. He said during WFE, as an actor doing a multi-film franchise like this, you'd think the actor would have more control, but he has less.
So, like I am supposed to be worried about Rob's image from obvious franchise marketing when I read stuff like this from Cronenberg?http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/11/20/david-cronenberg-on-a-dangerous-method-robert-pattinson-s-acting-and-s-m-with-keira-knightley.html
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/david-cronenberg-says-twilight-fans-will-be-blown-away-by-robert-pattinson-in-cosmopolis#
The only "involvement" in this movie and fandom I had last night was some reading on Rob-only fan sites, and listening to my neighbor tell me about her group of women friends who are Twilight fanatics seeing the movie, liking it of course, but saying Kristen Stewart still isn't much of an actress and there's no chemisty. Rob is going to be fine.
« Reply #342 on: November 22, 2011 at 07:37:35 AM »
***scours mental archives***
Remember last year? The LA love nest and all the super duper white beds and the clean floors? Then OH SHIT! They were found!!!! They were chased by paparazzi and had to seak refuge in a police station . Of course, this chase and the police station exist in a vortex of camera fail.
Then, they had to leave the love nest. Sad Panda. Fans screamed LEAVE THEM ALONE! Kristen went to Argentina to continue making a movie where she showed her boobs and Rob went to a bar in Texas.
Now, let's see what happens. My guess? They'll have to leave ...because they've been found by a photographer who was lucky enough to find them. (translation, someone on the payroll). Sad Panda.
Exit strategy. Rinse and repeat.
Remember last year? The LA love nest and all the super duper white beds and the clean floors? Then OH SHIT! They were found!!!! They were chased by paparazzi and had to seak refuge in a police station . Of course, this chase and the police station exist in a vortex of camera fail.
Then, they had to leave the love nest. Sad Panda. Fans screamed LEAVE THEM ALONE! Kristen went to Argentina to continue making a movie where she showed her boobs and Rob went to a bar in Texas.
Now, let's see what happens. My guess? They'll have to leave ...because they've been found by a photographer who was lucky enough to find them. (translation, someone on the payroll). Sad Panda.
Exit strategy. Rinse and repeat.
« Reply #354 on: November 22, 2011 at 9:44:04 AM »
I doubt any PR person would be checking in on our thoughts, because why bother? We are a small piece of an otherwise vocal and insane fandom that has managed to shell out 72 million dollars. They have nothing to sell here. They could care less about my $10. Just my opinion though.
If you take a step back from ALL the fuckery, Rob and Kristen continue to engage in behaviors that any two friends would. There is NOTHING romantic about their actions or their words. The only meaning anything they have done has been assigned by the psychos. I'm as guilty as anyone else for falling for it. Summit sells it like its the last drink before the desert, the sheep interpret it to the nth degree, and Rob and Kristen participate in it. In the end, these two have done nothing to suggest they are more than friends though.
I think the bigger question is why Rob continues to associate with her at all. From what I've seen she's an insufferable twat and I can't imagine he would find her friend material in any form.
If you take a step back from ALL the fuckery, Rob and Kristen continue to engage in behaviors that any two friends would. There is NOTHING romantic about their actions or their words. The only meaning anything they have done has been assigned by the psychos. I'm as guilty as anyone else for falling for it. Summit sells it like its the last drink before the desert, the sheep interpret it to the nth degree, and Rob and Kristen participate in it. In the end, these two have done nothing to suggest they are more than friends though.
I think the bigger question is why Rob continues to associate with her at all. From what I've seen she's an insufferable twat and I can't imagine he would find her friend material in any form.
« Reply #357 on: November 22, 2011 at 9:57:30 AM »
Well, I've had the same thoughts before, of course, but it's because he has to, IMO. He's hardly done this AT ALL this year. That is obvious to all. It's required for his job, which doesn't end with this franchise for another year. Also, she works with Tom, who knows when that film will come out, how long that will drag out. She's worked with people he knows, Marcus knows, etc. etc. I worked with people I had to keep the peace with, who I was living parallel lives to in some way, not by my choice. Then life circumstances change, like Rob says, "I may never see any of them [cast] again." One of these people I saw last year at a soccer game, hadn't seen in many years. Once I left that job, I was done placating that guy to make my boss's life easier. That is why I did it, she needed me to get him off her back, and to keep him from creating all sorts of discord with other staff, and I supported her. That was not in my job description at all but I was stuck with it.
Well, I've had the same thoughts before, of course, but it's because he has to, IMO. He's hardly done this AT ALL this year. That is obvious to all. It's required for his job, which doesn't end with this franchise for another year. Also, she works with Tom, who knows when that film will come out, how long that will drag out. She's worked with people he knows, Marcus knows, etc. etc. I worked with people I had to keep the peace with, who I was living parallel lives to in some way, not by my choice. Then life circumstances change, like Rob says, "I may never see any of them [cast] again." One of these people I saw last year at a soccer game, hadn't seen in many years. Once I left that job, I was done placating that guy to make my boss's life easier. That is why I did it, she needed me to get him off her back, and to keep him from creating all sorts of discord with other staff, and I supported her. That was not in my job description at all but I was stuck with it.
« Reply #359 on: November 22, 2011 at 10:42:18 AM »
I don't have an emotional stake in this. I enjoy Robert but I don't desire him or seek to save/protect him from the people giving him millions of dollars. When I started out, I WAS a fan. But that has been eliminated by the fuckery.
I think it is fascinating how marketing has motivated and manipulated the masses to turn a mediocre book series into what we have today (sigh, alliteration). The wardrobe, acting and screenwriting is sub-par. The only sense this makes to me is that there is so much projection going on that they cannot actually see their hands in front of their faces. This is a sociological experiment to me at best
I think it is fascinating how marketing has motivated and manipulated the masses to turn a mediocre book series into what we have today (sigh, alliteration). The wardrobe, acting and screenwriting is sub-par. The only sense this makes to me is that there is so much projection going on that they cannot actually see their hands in front of their faces. This is a sociological experiment to me at best
« Reply #361 on: November 22, 2011 at 11:26:45 AM »
I agree. Like, I love Rob a lot. I'm a fan, but it's gotten to the point where I'm less invested in his private life than I was even a couple months ago. Like you guys say, I think it's more so than anything now that I cannot stand shippers and stans and I just want to be right. Like, I want to walk away knowing this is NOT an Epic love of grand proportions.
« Reply #363 on: November 22, 2011 at 12:21:57 PM »
PRsten has severely impacted my enjoyment of Rob's career and fuckhawtness. I wish I could ignore all the are they/aren't they turf wars, but I can't because it's all over the media and I am morbidly curious.
I understand that PR is an unavoidable part of moviemaking and that Rob is just doing what he needs to do to stay in the game. However, there are many, many talented actors who are well respected and have not built their careers through PR tactics. Rob's involvement in the Twilight PR shenanigans, whether by choice or contract, has reached the point of diminishing returns IMHO.
IDGAF if they are together or not at this point (I don't think they are, but whatev). I'm just weary of it all and I doubt I'll be around if this shit continues and escalates throughout the next year or so.
I understand that PR is an unavoidable part of moviemaking and that Rob is just doing what he needs to do to stay in the game. However, there are many, many talented actors who are well respected and have not built their careers through PR tactics. Rob's involvement in the Twilight PR shenanigans, whether by choice or contract, has reached the point of diminishing returns IMHO.
IDGAF if they are together or not at this point (I don't think they are, but whatev). I'm just weary of it all and I doubt I'll be around if this shit continues and escalates throughout the next year or so.
« Reply #348 on: November 26, 2011, 11:32:33 AM »
That sounds like a shipper trying to throw you off and disarm you to get you to engage with them. What the fuck are they talking about? Like tomorrow Kristen will come out of the love nest looking seven months pregnant? Like a Renesmee pregnancy?
I don't get it, here's the thing. I am not going away. If Rob and Kristen marry over the New Year's and walk around in matching clothes for the next twenty years, I am not going to be on your team, their team anyone's team. I will still say they suck. I don't give a fuck if they're real or not...they suck. The end. What is their obsession with our side of the fence? Who cares? Hello and goodbye. They keep throwing hypotheticals out there like "If Kristen got boobs and baked you a pie, would you then say she was nice?" What the fuck? NO! I wouldn't I don't want her boobs or her pie, thanks. Hello and goodybe. "If Rob all of a sudden went bald and then wrote on his head Kristen is my life...would you then become a shipper?" What the fuck? NO! I wouldn't and I would still stare at Rob's bald head and his message of love. "If Kristen earns an Academy Award and starts to breastfeed starving children in Mongolia, will you then be a fan?" What the fuck? NO! Are you taking tips on what she needs to do to gain my acceptance? Nothing she can do will gain my acceptance. Except maybe leave Earth and take all you fans with her. Then as the shuttle goes out of the atmosphere I will stand up, plant a flag in the ground and shout "I am a Krisbian! God's Speed Kristen Stewart!"
Someone should start with them. "If Kristen throw a laquot pie at you when you go to get her autograph, will you still like her?" "If Kristen turns out to be a lesbian and does a talkshow on it, will you still like her even though she's now dating Roberta?" "If Kristen never has a career will you still go to Comic Con to see her when she's 40?" "If Rob and Kristen don't marry and have golden babies, will you support her with anyone else and still love her?"
Like why are they even writing Nonsten Confessions all "Give up now?" Fuck no...why? If Rob marries her and has to put up with this shit what's he gonna do to me? Come kick my ass? I'll still be all "Hey Butt Boy! I can still go see your movies and I can still choose not to and your co-star still has buck teeth, a mouth breather, man shoulders, huge ears and talks for shit. She still looks like a lesbian. Come at me bro!"
I don't get it, here's the thing. I am not going away. If Rob and Kristen marry over the New Year's and walk around in matching clothes for the next twenty years, I am not going to be on your team, their team anyone's team. I will still say they suck. I don't give a fuck if they're real or not...they suck. The end. What is their obsession with our side of the fence? Who cares? Hello and goodbye. They keep throwing hypotheticals out there like "If Kristen got boobs and baked you a pie, would you then say she was nice?" What the fuck? NO! I wouldn't I don't want her boobs or her pie, thanks. Hello and goodybe. "If Rob all of a sudden went bald and then wrote on his head Kristen is my life...would you then become a shipper?" What the fuck? NO! I wouldn't and I would still stare at Rob's bald head and his message of love. "If Kristen earns an Academy Award and starts to breastfeed starving children in Mongolia, will you then be a fan?" What the fuck? NO! Are you taking tips on what she needs to do to gain my acceptance? Nothing she can do will gain my acceptance. Except maybe leave Earth and take all you fans with her. Then as the shuttle goes out of the atmosphere I will stand up, plant a flag in the ground and shout "I am a Krisbian! God's Speed Kristen Stewart!"
Someone should start with them. "If Kristen throw a laquot pie at you when you go to get her autograph, will you still like her?" "If Kristen turns out to be a lesbian and does a talkshow on it, will you still like her even though she's now dating Roberta?" "If Kristen never has a career will you still go to Comic Con to see her when she's 40?" "If Rob and Kristen don't marry and have golden babies, will you support her with anyone else and still love her?"
Like why are they even writing Nonsten Confessions all "Give up now?" Fuck no...why? If Rob marries her and has to put up with this shit what's he gonna do to me? Come kick my ass? I'll still be all "Hey Butt Boy! I can still go see your movies and I can still choose not to and your co-star still has buck teeth, a mouth breather, man shoulders, huge ears and talks for shit. She still looks like a lesbian. Come at me bro!"
« Reply #350 on: November 26, 2011, 10:46:10 PM »
I, too, would like to know why our opinion matters so much.
According to shippers, they've already "won". With the Paris-Montreal-IOW-WFE Premiere-Brazil-My Boyfriend is English-My girlfriend loves Germany-Ipod shared pic-shared clothing and luggage of love -shared house in LA / flat in London-every background character amd famewhore director confirmation.
They've won. Why so insecure? Oh, could it be because deep down you know none of this is actually confirmation? And that, our Nonsten:
Rob holding his hat on that tarmac-business trip to Budapest-not so subtle 'revelations' from a well known industry sell out - shared clothing with the entire group of friends - non denial denials - spending months apart and days together - lack of affection when there's a non blurry picture - other confirmations from people who ACTUALLY have spent time with them saying they don't seem like a couple....makes sense and indicates that *gasp* they might not actually be a couple?
And, in other regards: we don't control what Rob & Kristen do. We don't care. We know they have free-will and make their own decisions. So WHY does our opinion matter? Us hating the idea of them together will not change anything! Just like your crazy manips and prayers to Jesus won't change anything either. Because they are their own people. Whether they're legit or contracted to this. THEY made the decision to sign that dotted line. Whether it was real of proverbial.
Shippers shouldn't worry about us. They should worry about when that one girl comes along that makes a certain man want to hold their hand in public, spend his free time with, and for the love of GOD say "yes, I'm dating her".
This relationship is weird. And when they don't live in this fish bowl anymore, they'll realize they don't have much in common and peace out.
According to shippers, they've already "won". With the Paris-Montreal-IOW-WFE Premiere-Brazil-My Boyfriend is English-My girlfriend loves Germany-Ipod shared pic-shared clothing and luggage of love -shared house in LA / flat in London-every background character amd famewhore director confirmation.
They've won. Why so insecure? Oh, could it be because deep down you know none of this is actually confirmation? And that, our Nonsten:
Rob holding his hat on that tarmac-business trip to Budapest-not so subtle 'revelations' from a well known industry sell out - shared clothing with the entire group of friends - non denial denials - spending months apart and days together - lack of affection when there's a non blurry picture - other confirmations from people who ACTUALLY have spent time with them saying they don't seem like a couple....makes sense and indicates that *gasp* they might not actually be a couple?
And, in other regards: we don't control what Rob & Kristen do. We don't care. We know they have free-will and make their own decisions. So WHY does our opinion matter? Us hating the idea of them together will not change anything! Just like your crazy manips and prayers to Jesus won't change anything either. Because they are their own people. Whether they're legit or contracted to this. THEY made the decision to sign that dotted line. Whether it was real of proverbial.
Shippers shouldn't worry about us. They should worry about when that one girl comes along that makes a certain man want to hold their hand in public, spend his free time with, and for the love of GOD say "yes, I'm dating her".
This relationship is weird. And when they don't live in this fish bowl anymore, they'll realize they don't have much in common and peace out.
« Reply #354 on: November 27, 2011 at 12:46:59 AM »
Do you know who acts like this? The crazy or crazies of BWAN. Some of their posts that I had the displeasure to read for some masochistic instinc 
(one of them was because they posted some of my tweets), in their posts they try to sound "intellectually superior, cultured, rational", but in the end they are the craziest of all. I think the ones who posts these confessions in that R'sten tumblr are the assumed crazy, and they follow the "leadership" of these nuts. They are the ones who say, "trust and believe". LMAOOO!!!!
Hey mole, are you here?
LMAO!
(one of them was because they posted some of my tweets), in their posts they try to sound "intellectually superior, cultured, rational", but in the end they are the craziest of all. I think the ones who posts these confessions in that R'sten tumblr are the assumed crazy, and they follow the "leadership" of these nuts. They are the ones who say, "trust and believe". LMAOOO!!!! Hey mole, are you here?
LMAO!Spoiler
I dont see a fantasy here. I see him going from a funny, witty, intelligent person to a PR-driven puppet. And if he continues this behaviour, I will still watch his movies, but my respect for him will be much lower than before.
Thank you, you said exactly what I think. I never said that maybe losing the respect and admiration I have for him as a person, would make me stop seeing his movies. I said that maybe I'll would stop following his interviews and any other thing that is not strictly his work.
I was pissed with the WFE NYE premiere, but the day the movie was released, two days after, I was in the cinema and I didn't even remember what happened and loved the movie as I was expecting. Same goes to BD, all this showmance or whatever didn't make stop being a Twilight fan also, and I loved BD too.
What one thing has to do with the other? IDGI.
Also I don't think it's some sort of crazy fantasy, the kind of fantasy the sheep have, it's not the kind of their "fantasy" enjoying to see nice and good people in such a "dirty" business that is Hollywood. I have lots of people that inspire me, related to many things, and there's nothing wrong with this. I can say that Angelina Jolie is one of them, talking about Hollywood. I would love to read a biography about her life. But I admire a lot of people and, yes, it's sad to see somebody you admire showing that he/she is not really what you thought. I have people related to politics that are really an example in life for me. And about many other things, like I said.
For me, it has nothing to do with projecting something in Rob or in any other people. It's just the good feeling that I have knowing that there are still good people in the world. In the case of Rob, I always saw him as an humble guy, talented and with a good heart. I still think he is, but sometimes I think it's sad to see that he may lose himself completely in all this thing. Even if his personal life really becomes a total mess, if he continues making good films, I have no reasons to not see it.
But this is just my opinion.
« Reply #360 on: November 27, 2011 at 11:57:23 AM »
Exactly. To me, this is shipperish and frankly is the redflag to me it's likely a professional PR person (or that person is putting this out there and sheep picking it up.) There's NEVER been a pic of them kissing. That's fiction. Never a confirmation. Right now, everyone is fully aware--even if they pretend to ignore it or spin it--that Kristen has denied. Rob has said it's ridiculous just recently, too. He's NEVER signaled that he's dating her. NEVER. Everything is gossip, innuendo, and lately insertions of "your girlfriend Kristen Stewart" in front of his face to try to trick fans into thinking he confirmed when he won't GO THERE and deny.
I think all this is well known. From the start, there's been this attempt to demonize Nonstens (it continues still--releasing that pic again?) but they don't change their minds and they don't go away.
So what's left for sheep and the PR peeps? Try to shame Rob fans (nonstens and many many many more people) by suggesting they are branding him as a famewhore PR puppet with their thoughts. He's not and I don't see people doing that here, either, really. But Nonstens refusing to turn on Rob en masse has to REALLY really bother them.
Frankly I think the next wave is to try to get Nonstens to turn on each other. Making them go away has failed. Try to pit Nonstens/Rob fans who might think he's with her and hiding it and doing PR vs. those who thinks the guy is doing what is in his contract for Summit but not faking a relationship. I've heard this bit before, you are saying bad things about Rob re: PR if you don't think he's dating her by now. BS.
It seems personal to me, in some way. Because Nonstens aren't a huge group, many more people believe they are dating, People is printing this all the time now, etc. Why care? We don't matter. The box office is doing fine, it's below projections, but it's fine so far. It's like it matters to someone's ego. IDK
I think all this is well known. From the start, there's been this attempt to demonize Nonstens (it continues still--releasing that pic again?) but they don't change their minds and they don't go away.
So what's left for sheep and the PR peeps? Try to shame Rob fans (nonstens and many many many more people) by suggesting they are branding him as a famewhore PR puppet with their thoughts. He's not and I don't see people doing that here, either, really. But Nonstens refusing to turn on Rob en masse has to REALLY really bother them.
Frankly I think the next wave is to try to get Nonstens to turn on each other. Making them go away has failed. Try to pit Nonstens/Rob fans who might think he's with her and hiding it and doing PR vs. those who thinks the guy is doing what is in his contract for Summit but not faking a relationship. I've heard this bit before, you are saying bad things about Rob re: PR if you don't think he's dating her by now. BS.
It seems personal to me, in some way. Because Nonstens aren't a huge group, many more people believe they are dating, People is printing this all the time now, etc. Why care? We don't matter. The box office is doing fine, it's below projections, but it's fine so far. It's like it matters to someone's ego. IDK
« Reply #361 on: November 27, 2011 at 12:17:14 PM »
They always try to get you to love Kristen by saying that I am supposed to hate Rob because he partakes in PR. No, I am a realist and I realize that movies are made with PR, I have no issue with Rob doing PR, in fact I believe he does it all the time. They're the only ones screaming about how awful people are if they do PR, not seeming to get that EVERYONE does PR. Like when a person compliments Kristen as the greatest actress ever in the whole wide world, they believe it's sincere. "Awwwww! Seeee! Awwwww!" not realizing or thinking that some director isn't going to ever say "She sucks." I say the same for Rob. Do I believe Cronenberg is sincere in his compliments? To a point, yes. Is he doing PR also? YES! He has a movie to sell, regardless of how pretty or gritty it is, it still has to be sold to an audience, to peak their interest to see it. This is a business not a goodwill gesture. People like to be paid. Not only studios, but the directors, the behind the scenes people, the areas that rented out their location for your movie, they don't do it for free and in the hopes of leaving something epic to posterity that can go in a time capsule. They're doing it for money, it's work, and they expect to be paid and hopefully a profit.
I won't think any less of Rob if he does PR. It's his job. Like Taylor mentioned, "it's our job to make people believe we're the characters." It's Rob's job to sell you the movie and an idea. Otherwise, why do promo? There would be no need.
I don't even dislike Stewart for her PR, though it's clearly over the top. They seem to think we dislike her because either we're all jealous or her beauty, her smarts, her figure, her man, her vocab, her fiercness, her buck teeth and because she's a PR whore. No. I dislike her because I can, I think her acting is shitty (and she's finally being called out on the carpet more for it in BD reviews) and if she was the girl at Walmart waiting on me, I probably would still dislike her. And her fans. Namely her fans make me really dislike her.
I won't think any less of Rob if he does PR. It's his job. Like Taylor mentioned, "it's our job to make people believe we're the characters." It's Rob's job to sell you the movie and an idea. Otherwise, why do promo? There would be no need.
I don't even dislike Stewart for her PR, though it's clearly over the top. They seem to think we dislike her because either we're all jealous or her beauty, her smarts, her figure, her man, her vocab, her fiercness, her buck teeth and because she's a PR whore. No. I dislike her because I can, I think her acting is shitty (and she's finally being called out on the carpet more for it in BD reviews) and if she was the girl at Walmart waiting on me, I probably would still dislike her. And her fans. Namely her fans make me really dislike her.
« Reply #364 on: November 27, 2011 at 03:26:21 PM »
I'm guessing Rob is still in London. *sigh* Usually, I'd be happy for him to be there but since he's spending his time in Kristen's presence .
Here's hoping Monday brings Kristen back to work (I reiterate ISN'T SHE SHOOTING A FREAKING MOVIE?) and in another country. Bottoms up
Here's hoping Monday brings Kristen back to work (I reiterate ISN'T SHE SHOOTING A FREAKING MOVIE?) and in another country. Bottoms up
« Reply #370 on: November 27, 2011 at 06:26:06 PM »
I hadn't commented on that pic yet, I only saw yesterday actually. That's EXACTLY what I thought when I saw it: Keystone Cops. You can't make people pretend they are in love (outside the set where they are paid to do it. But on that note, I just saw BD and I didn't see her earn her money pretending to be in love with Edward Cullen. AT ALL Rob's acting was good and sometimes VERY good. I found the movie painful. I guess I'll give more of my two cents on the movie later...)
I've been wondering, too, hey how about that movie you are supposed to be filming? Then I realized, I think her true value to Universal is in raising her profile by feasting off Rob's fame and popularity. Helps her image, SWATH (trailer in front of BD) and of course, it's like blood to a thirsty vamp for the sheep (R'sten "fix.) I thought, maybe they ever wrote her out of some SWATH scenes to make time for "socializing" this week in London. I am only partly kidding....
I've been wondering, too, hey how about that movie you are supposed to be filming? Then I realized, I think her true value to Universal is in raising her profile by feasting off Rob's fame and popularity. Helps her image, SWATH (trailer in front of BD) and of course, it's like blood to a thirsty vamp for the sheep (R'sten "fix.) I thought, maybe they ever wrote her out of some SWATH scenes to make time for "socializing" this week in London. I am only partly kidding....
« Reply #377 on: November 27, 2011 at 05:56:05 PM »
"Hi! Not trolling around or anything, Im studying psychology combined with media studies and I found your tumblr quite interesting from that point of view. Just to make it clear from the start, I am a Rob and Kristen fan (as individuals) and with time I have come to the conclusion that they are dating, but I dont want to fight over that or prove anything really. Id be interested in knowing exactly why you are against it."
In other words, "Hi! I'm an 18 year old college student and a RABID shipper!"
"I have ruled out the reason of you being such a big fan of Robs that you maybe cant stand seeing him with anyone in general because I have looked through your posts and you seem to like the idea of Rob with Nikki, Ashley, but definitely not Kristen. So are you against R'sten because you dont like Kristen as a person/actress?"
Well yes, actually, in a way. You see, I think Kristen is a heinous bitch. Snooty, snobby, bossy, emasculating, rude, obnoxious, and without even having the redeeming quality of at least being incredibly talented or very good-looking. So if he has indeed coupled with such a person, my opinion of him can go nowhere but down. In fact, knowing what a snide, mocking person she is, I can't help but wonder, if they are indeed together, whether he actually shares her views on fans, non-celebrities, and people in general, and is simply better at hiding it (being, quite obviously, a much better actor than she is). AS HIS FAN, I do not want to believe he is that kind of person. I do not want to believe he would ever tie himself to someone like that, for anything more than a fling. BECAUSE I think so highly of him and so poorly of her, the thought of the two of them together is not only repulsive, it's unnatural. In order for it to make any kind of sense to me, his value would have to go down in my eyes. And I don't want it to.
In other words, "Hi! I'm an 18 year old college student and a RABID shipper!"
"I have ruled out the reason of you being such a big fan of Robs that you maybe cant stand seeing him with anyone in general because I have looked through your posts and you seem to like the idea of Rob with Nikki, Ashley, but definitely not Kristen. So are you against R'sten because you dont like Kristen as a person/actress?"
Well yes, actually, in a way. You see, I think Kristen is a heinous bitch. Snooty, snobby, bossy, emasculating, rude, obnoxious, and without even having the redeeming quality of at least being incredibly talented or very good-looking. So if he has indeed coupled with such a person, my opinion of him can go nowhere but down. In fact, knowing what a snide, mocking person she is, I can't help but wonder, if they are indeed together, whether he actually shares her views on fans, non-celebrities, and people in general, and is simply better at hiding it (being, quite obviously, a much better actor than she is). AS HIS FAN, I do not want to believe he is that kind of person. I do not want to believe he would ever tie himself to someone like that, for anything more than a fling. BECAUSE I think so highly of him and so poorly of her, the thought of the two of them together is not only repulsive, it's unnatural. In order for it to make any kind of sense to me, his value would have to go down in my eyes. And I don't want it to.
« Reply #378 on: November 27, 2011 at 06:30:25 PM »
I meant to say something about this before but I totally forgot until someone messaged me on tumblr and asked what I thought about Kristen letting that interviewer in the apartment o' love.
Rob mentioned in an interview not too long ago that he wasn't sure about living in London anymore because when he's there people always recognize him or find out where he's staying or something to that affect. And then he after that he goes on Jimmy K. and pretty much tells the world that he stays with his parents every time he goes home. Now, whether or not that's true, it's a moot point. If he thinks that people always follow him in London does anybody really think he would lead the paps/crazed fans right to his parent's front door?
I guess I could believe that he is just madly in love with Kristen and has to be where she's at so staying somewhere else is just not an option, but I really, really don't.
Rob mentioned in an interview not too long ago that he wasn't sure about living in London anymore because when he's there people always recognize him or find out where he's staying or something to that affect. And then he after that he goes on Jimmy K. and pretty much tells the world that he stays with his parents every time he goes home. Now, whether or not that's true, it's a moot point. If he thinks that people always follow him in London does anybody really think he would lead the paps/crazed fans right to his parent's front door?
I guess I could believe that he is just madly in love with Kristen and has to be where she's at so staying somewhere else is just not an option, but I really, really don't.
« Reply #183 on: December 28, 2011, 07:53:27 PM »
I find the HQ pap pics of Rob kissing his mum goodbye at their doorstep and entering the black SUV highly suspicious... and by 'suspicious' I mean purposeful and decoy-ish.
This is my thoughts too. Just because he left his parents house doesn't necessarily mean he is leaving London. He could be going to one of his buddies houses.
And since when does not being seen together as in Rob and K mean they ARE together?? I don't get that. We know K is a fame whore and whenever she is with Rob there is ALWAYS something that gets out there! I hate that the sheep think that JUST because Rob goes to anywhere that K may be it proves it is for her! London was his home but as soon as idiot goes there it is because of HER that he went? Really?
Now I don't really care where he goes just as long as he is having fun! And since he seems to only have fun without clinger then I hope she stays away. But seeing as she has to be in any limelight Rob has there you go. But I see both laying low and nothing big on NY. Idk why. But again something changed this year. They never hang out unless it is PR. And Rob being photographed in London the last time he was there was PR sorry but that was all set up. So him being photographed was a given imo.
And why would he invite people from London to go to his party in LA?? Unless that girl was from LA? I am confused. Neways I don't see Rob doing anything with K on NY. But the sheep will assume like always.
« Reply #200 on: December 28, 2011, 10:13:00 PM »
Well to be fair, Rob lives in LA now. He's got responsibilities anymore, including his dog. It's not like he has to stay away because Kristen lives there too. If they're together or not, Rob and she will live in the same city along with the rest of tinsel town.
I don't think returning to LA means a lover's reunion. He lives there. What's he supposed to do?
I don't think returning to LA means a lover's reunion. He lives there. What's he supposed to do?
« Reply #208 on: December 28, 2011, 10:50:16 PM »
pardon me while I *yawn*
he showed up in LA
big deal
did she meet him at the airport?
with his wrapped guitars?
no?
K
wake me when this snooze fest of a romance is done
proximity does not equal relationship
want proof?
Rob ate dinner with kristen and 20 or so of their closest work folksies
he showed up in LA
big deal
did she meet him at the airport?
with his wrapped guitars?
no?
K
wake me when this snooze fest of a romance is done
proximity does not equal relationship
want proof?
Rob ate dinner with kristen and 20 or so of their closest work folksies
Sheep say love its proof
Rob ate Dinner with Ashley during promo tour too
does that mean it is love between those two?
Ok Ok
how about the whole WFE hand holding getting in the car thing ?
what people who are friends are not allowed to touch without it being fucking?
OK OK
she went to his premieres
but so did Tom so did Sam so did his parents and sisters
UH OH !!
sounds like Rob is one big ol whore
sorry folks I still see NADA
and some new twitter twit saying OH I happen to be at ____ and I saw them horse nuzzling
does not mean shit
try harder people
he is a movie actor he has stuff going on he is gonna be in LA
and that is OK
I hear it is a big town
and has more than just 2 houses in it
you know Kristens parents place and the rumored love nest
I hear they have all kinds of places in LA and you have to DRIVE through traffic and everything to get there
*insert eye roll gif here cause I am too lazy to bother*
Rob ate Dinner with Ashley during promo tour too
does that mean it is love between those two?
Ok Ok
how about the whole WFE hand holding getting in the car thing ?
what people who are friends are not allowed to touch without it being fucking?
OK OK
she went to his premieres
but so did Tom so did Sam so did his parents and sisters
UH OH !!
sounds like Rob is one big ol whore
sorry folks I still see NADA
and some new twitter twit saying OH I happen to be at ____ and I saw them horse nuzzling
does not mean shit
try harder people
he is a movie actor he has stuff going on he is gonna be in LA
and that is OK
I hear it is a big town
and has more than just 2 houses in it
you know Kristens parents place and the rumored love nest
I hear they have all kinds of places in LA and you have to DRIVE through traffic and everything to get there
*insert eye roll gif here cause I am too lazy to bother*
« Reply #209 on: December 28, 2011, 10:57:30 PM »
I was just thinking too. The sheep think that the only reason he is going back to LA is just for K. But Rob lives in La probably and has Bear. And he works. And sorry but K has flown her clingy ass 2 years in a row to IOW for whatever. So if Rob really wanted to go to IOW he would have. And if K was going she would! That is the telling part. Ya maybe it's because of stalkers. But that has not stopped them going somewhere else that they KNOW is full of stalkers. Just part of the biz. And maybe its cause his friends are somewhere else but Idk. Just wierd.
So the fact IOW isnt happening this year says alot to me. Just thinking outloud..
So the fact IOW isnt happening this year says alot to me. Just thinking outloud..
« Reply #212 on: December 28, 2011, 10:59:56 PM »
Rob is back in LA?
I bet the person he's been spending time with while living in LA is very happy to have him back.
Wut? I'm speculating like everyone else.
I bet the person he's been spending time with while living in LA is very happy to have him back.
Wut? I'm speculating like everyone else.
« Reply #217 on: December 29, 2011 at 12:12:02 AM »
Are they really twirling? Because what? Remember when Kristen came home from London and all those epic sightings of them together? Oh wait...no, that didn't happen. Remember how Rob was waiting for her at the airport with a rose? Wait, no, that didn't happen either. Remember how they were spotted holding hands and browsing guitars together and they took pictures with the shop owner? Oh wait, no that didn't happen either. That was her dad. Silly me. Oh remember how Rob left her in London and headed to LA for time on his own but he had so few luggage it was only for a few days? Oh wait...that didn't happen either.
ETA: Okay, no offense to Rob but looking at those HQ pictures of him arriving in LA--man, the fingernails on his left hand? Please. Cut. Them. Down. Like his thumb and middle finger...how he has some super duper romantic girlfriend is beyond me because it's frankly creepy. Something about a guy with long nails that totally squeeks me out. He reminds me of a kid in grade school I was assigned to sit next to and he would grow out his pinkie nails and then make hissing noises at you.
Seriously Rob, is no one taking care of you?
ETA: Okay, no offense to Rob but looking at those HQ pictures of him arriving in LA--man, the fingernails on his left hand? Please. Cut. Them. Down. Like his thumb and middle finger...how he has some super duper romantic girlfriend is beyond me because it's frankly creepy. Something about a guy with long nails that totally squeeks me out. He reminds me of a kid in grade school I was assigned to sit next to and he would grow out his pinkie nails and then make hissing noises at you.
Seriously Rob, is no one taking care of you?
« Reply #218 on: December 29, 2011 at 01:36:00 AM »
Like I've already said, I LOVE your posts Roselover!.
Now that it happened it's easy for me to say, but I had the feeling that something different would happen this year.
Yes, IOW has been tainted by the crazy sheep, maybe in a few years he can return. Not now. And yes, he said in interview that in London he's more papped than in LA.
My guts tell me that maybe they will be seen together, maybe not. If not, we can count on gossips to feed the
And I also don't think he's giving a party at HIS house, if he already has one. If he does it, he can say goodbye to any kind of privacy.
I think they will be seen in somewhere, looking like friends (or like shit, because in their last outing they looked like shit), nothing different will happen, new day (YEAR!!! ) , same shit.
They don't act like a couple, never acted, I have no reasons to believe they are. I don't think Rob is some kind of crazy nuts or a douche that would treat a GF like shit. KS also treats him like shit and seem to hate him sometimes. Pure envy of him. And NO, it's NOT NORMAL for a supposed 3 years old couple spend Xmas apart. It's just NOT. Maybe in the beginning of the relationship. Not 3 YEARS.
You know what I really think sometimes? That Rob simply doesn't give a fuck and don't care about what the rest of the world says about his life. Simple as that. He just doesn't care. He knows this will end and that he has a great career ahead. So, he doesn't give a fuck.
And please, bring me Bel Ami, thanks.
Grab your popcorns...
I think they will be seen in somewhere, looking like friends (or like shit, because in their last outing they looked like shit), nothing different will happen, new day (YEAR!!! ) , same shit.
They don't act like a couple, never acted, I have no reasons to believe they are. I don't think Rob is some kind of crazy nuts or a douche that would treat a GF like shit. KS also treats him like shit and seem to hate him sometimes. Pure envy of him. And NO, it's NOT NORMAL for a supposed 3 years old couple spend Xmas apart. It's just NOT. Maybe in the beginning of the relationship. Not 3 YEARS.
You know what I really think sometimes? That Rob simply doesn't give a fuck and don't care about what the rest of the world says about his life. Simple as that. He just doesn't care. He knows this will end and that he has a great career ahead. So, he doesn't give a fuck.
And please, bring me Bel Ami, thanks.
Grab your popcorns...
« Reply #227 on: December 29, 2011 at 05:19:00 AM »
JJB, your description of the kid in elementary school just made me laugh so hard!!
Well, Rob is back in LA with his soulmate (Bear). I agree gals, taking a step back and looking logically kind of ruins the whole fanfic of the sheep.
He clearly lives in LA (as does his dog) and his trips away have been either to shoot a movie or for a brief visit before returning to his new homebase.
When Kristen was in London he was flying there for her. When she's in LA he's flying there for her except he has a ton of other plausible explanations for being in both of those places. The fact that she is there is secondary.
If he goes to some concert with her on NYE I'll just die. I've never been to a concert with a guy I wasn't doing the deed with! How dare you all suggest that attending a concert with friends is lack of proof of epic love!!! JELUZ H8TRS.
Truth be told I'd feel bad if his only NYE option is a concert with Kristen and her grammatically challenged friends.
Well, Rob is back in LA with his soulmate (Bear). I agree gals, taking a step back and looking logically kind of ruins the whole fanfic of the sheep.
He clearly lives in LA (as does his dog) and his trips away have been either to shoot a movie or for a brief visit before returning to his new homebase.
When Kristen was in London he was flying there for her. When she's in LA he's flying there for her except he has a ton of other plausible explanations for being in both of those places. The fact that she is there is secondary.
If he goes to some concert with her on NYE I'll just die. I've never been to a concert with a guy I wasn't doing the deed with! How dare you all suggest that attending a concert with friends is lack of proof of epic love!!! JELUZ H8TRS.
Truth be told I'd feel bad if his only NYE option is a concert with Kristen and her grammatically challenged friends.
« Reply #607 on: December 28, 2011, 06:39:33 PM »
It´s always the same. They spend way more time to track down and analyze every word we say than vice versa.
« Reply #608 on: December 28, 2011, 07:00:45 PM »
OMG they are so long winded I can't be bothered. It's always pages upon pages of bullshit. How do they have the time to write this crap?
« Reply #609 on: December 28, 2011, 07:22:58 PM »
This is all they live for. I'm guessing they spend the better part of their days coming up with that tripe. How.completely.pathetic.
On that note, I didn't even read it because verbose stupidity bothers me more than it should. It also bothers me when they LOL at shit that isn't funny.
« Reply #610 on: December 28, 2011, 07:29:38 PM »
They doth protest too much. It's not the first time they do this. They catastrophize this "girlfriend" thing. they are creating a fake story of a belief in a four year hidden girlfriend, and of Nonstens as pathetic believers of it. But no one believes this kind of story.
What I think? They are attempting to distract with this. Why? It is not about what "nonstens" think. They are worried that the sheep think he is dating someone that is not Kristen. And they are worried about NYE not looking like a Robsten love fest. Looking like some nonaffectionate sighting if she's even near him. This is about what the sheep fear and an attempted distraction from that.
I don't see anyone here speculating at all really about what his real romantic situation is right now. we just don't think it's Robsten that's all. Anything else, his business.
or alternatively, they are just nuts or think we all are.
What I think? They are attempting to distract with this. Why? It is not about what "nonstens" think. They are worried that the sheep think he is dating someone that is not Kristen. And they are worried about NYE not looking like a Robsten love fest. Looking like some nonaffectionate sighting if she's even near him. This is about what the sheep fear and an attempted distraction from that.
I don't see anyone here speculating at all really about what his real romantic situation is right now. we just don't think it's Robsten that's all. Anything else, his business.
or alternatively, they are just nuts or think we all are.
« Reply #614 on: December 29, 2011 at 12:03:15 AM »
The thing is with these losers, they are pretty much the only ones who think they are in some kind of epic war. They have a few delusional followers who follow them and fawn all over them but even the rest of the sheep aren't terribly fussed on them.
They have set themselves up as some kind of police of their own fandom and they attempt to fight us with their incredible "wit". Too bad no one on our side actually cares that much, I mostly forget they even exist until they pop up here for saying something astonishingly idiotic. Which in this fandom is really saying something.
I am surmising that they are actually someone who used to have some influence in the fandom, and I have a few guesses as to who. But they are really just some sad loser who misses their place as a super fan and are trying to stir people up so they can feel important again. They are all kinds of pathetic.
They have set themselves up as some kind of police of their own fandom and they attempt to fight us with their incredible "wit". Too bad no one on our side actually cares that much, I mostly forget they even exist until they pop up here for saying something astonishingly idiotic. Which in this fandom is really saying something.
I am surmising that they are actually someone who used to have some influence in the fandom, and I have a few guesses as to who. But they are really just some sad loser who misses their place as a super fan and are trying to stir people up so they can feel important again. They are all kinds of pathetic.
« Reply #616 on: December 29, 2011 at 02:19:10 AM »
Their problem?
1)They have too much free time in their hands.
2)It must be great for them don't have to work, have a poor husband to maintain them while they spend their life doing that kind of shit instead of taking care of their sons. Or grandsons.
3)They are insane. And
PS: No offense to women that don't work outside and actually TAKE CARE of their family. These bitches are just nasty.
AND...
I didn't read it either, I only read their bullshit once, when they screencaped one of my tweets.
« Reply #617 on: December 29th at 07:38:08 AM »
They have no lives and they get a sick pleasure out of stalking the board and making fun of Nonnies, not realizing what we supposedly do to Kristen...they do to us. Except, they're 1000x nastier. And while they cry we are mean and attack poor wittle KStew, they are vulgar and vicious.
And completely deluded. I've seen a lot of crazy sheep as we all have, but these girls (or women, or men, idk?) are in a class of their own. It's almost scarier how much they believe their delusions. It's easy to make fun of someone who is like "ROBSTEN FOREVER!!!!!!!1111" because they're just stupid, but when someone dedicated time to create blog posts that long and involved and TOTALLY irrational, it's like they have something mentally wrong with them. No rational person would invest that time if they didn't need extensive mental help.
And completely deluded. I've seen a lot of crazy sheep as we all have, but these girls (or women, or men, idk?) are in a class of their own. It's almost scarier how much they believe their delusions. It's easy to make fun of someone who is like "ROBSTEN FOREVER!!!!!!!1111" because they're just stupid, but when someone dedicated time to create blog posts that long and involved and TOTALLY irrational, it's like they have something mentally wrong with them. No rational person would invest that time if they didn't need extensive mental help.
« Reply #618 on: December 29th at 07:48:55 AM »
I usually don't like to give them attention, since that's what they seem to enjoy, but the thing of it is...whoever runs that blog/twitter...follows me from their REGULAR twitter account, and for all I know it could be someone I'm "friends" with. My twitter account is locked, but I've seen the BWAN twitter (who DOESN'T follow me, ergo shouldn't be able to see my tweets) reference things I've said. I haven't figured out who it is yet, but I wish this person would fucking face me and say shit TO ME instead of hiding like the cowards they are behind their anonymous account.
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