Is Hate Blinder than Love?

Ah, ninnies. When are they going to get it?

Poor, downtrodden victims of themselves. They luuuurve calling the “we’ve been attacked” card, but take no accountability for their own actions.

True to life. We look like this. For realz.

Over the weekend, one of the contributors to the nonsten.com, even took to the tumblr waves to rant about the difference in “hate” and “dislike.”

According to the author, “ ‘hate’ connotes a depth of feeling. You have to care about the subject to feel that emotion. ‘Dislike’ simply refers to something unpleasant that you could do without.”

                                                           
Aye, there’s the rub… and the ninnies’ single greatest fallacy. The one thing THEY STILL DON’T GET!

You see, if a person doesn’t like someone, or something, usually they dismiss that someone or something with a very casual air. It’s simply not on their radar screen, is not acknowledged in any way.

We don’t like mustard. We don’t put it on our sandwiches. We don’t like Pepsi. We don’t drink it. We think sequined Uggs are about the worst fashion statement since stirrup pants. But will we be buying any? You do the math.

The same can be applied to celebrity culture as well. A few of us here at BWAN (oh yes, there are several of us), were discussing this some time ago, and came up with a pretty hefty list of celebs we really don’t care for, or, in Ninnie Terms, “dislike:” Tom Cruise, Julia Roberts, Jennifer Aniston, Miley Cyrus, Britney Spears, Justin Bieber, Rachel Ray (omg do we can’t stand Rachel Ray. Is there anyone more annoying on earth that Rachel Ray?), Paris Hilton, Perez Hilton, Kim Kardashian, John Mayer, that douchey Kriss Angel magician freak-boy from Las Vegas, Megan Fox, Mel Gibson, Charlie Sheen, even Sienna Miller (yeah, we went there).

But where oh where do you see any of us trashing any of the aforementioned with recurrence of ptomaine-induced diarrhea as the ninnies shit all over Kristen?

Nowhere.

Why? Because it doesn’t exist. That’s not to say a snarky comment or two doesn’t pop out every now and again (let’s not even start discussing Kim Kardashian’s 72-day marriage), but in general, we follow the construct that if we don’t like something, it simply doesn’t exist to us. End. Of. Story.

The REASON nonstens exist in the first place is NOT because of their collective admiration for Rob. No! The whole “nonsten” movement started as an offshoot of the fandom when one particular blog decided it no longer wanted to support negative commentary about Kristen, and those commenters had to go elsewhere.

That’s right. An entire sect of the fandom was created over “dislike.” Twitter accounts have been established, tumblrs blogs set up, and even friendships have been formed over people’s mutual “dislike” of Kristen.

Most rational people we know, heck, most REASONABLE people we know, wouldn’t deign to consider the construct of a forum dedicated to trashing an actress an act of “dislike.”

Given ninnie logic, since we’ve confessed our dislike for so many celebrities, we should start our own “Nonfer” or “NonChel” website, and start tweeting and tumblring about how ugly they are, and talk about how they have penises, and make lude comments about their perceived sexuality.

Even ninnies themselves have claimed their dislike for other actresses: Patricia Arquette, Julia Roberts and Eva Mendes, among them.

But where are the rant tweets about those actresses in their lives? Where are the epithets disparaging those celebrities? Where are the private message boards and tumblrs and blog posts dedicated to discrediting those actresses?

There are none. Because they just “dislike” them.

So, tell us again how you “dislike” Kristen, how you cannot harbor “hate” because by hating her, you acknowledge you have feelings for her?

How you moan and piss and bitch about her at every opportunity? How you follow her film schedules, dissect articles where she’s been interviewed and comment on each magazine or paparazzi photo that comes out on her because you have no feelings? How you criticize each and every word that comes out of her mouth, and rant about every dress she’s in for every red carpet appearance because you have no feelings?

How on PRSten (yes, we know PRSten), you deleted over 500 posts dedicated to her because you have no feelings?

We’d say you have feelings a’plenty. And we have (as evidenced before) your own words to prove it.

So, keep on with that “dislike.” You’re doing one hell of a job.

An Open Letter to the Memebers of the “We hate Kristen Stewart” Club.

Dear HateStens,

First and foremost, we refuse to call you fans of Robert Pattinson. That’s not what you are. That’s not what you focus on. You do not respect him. You do not support him. You don’t even like him for the man he is.


Instead of appreciating him for his values and morals, you vilify him. In your minds, you’ve created a man with the face and accent of Robert and that’s where the similarities end. You’ve made him out to be someone who is deceitful and malicious. Someone who sells himself for money. Nothing more than a whore for a movie studio. You BELIEVE that Rob is a performing monkey that is used at the discretion of Summit Entertainment to keep a "fandom of sheep" in line. You BELIEVE he was forced to say he was in London. You BELIEVE he was PAID to include Kristen in holidays/weddings/family affairs.
And, now, given today’s latest round of bullshit, you BELIEVE that he is whoring himself out with Ashley. In fact, you PREFER it this way, even though the values he espouses (and that which you claim you admire) are that of a gentleman who prefers monogamy over all else. You want him to have those qualities unless it suits your agenda that he not be with Kristen. You would rather he be a drunken manwhore than the person who has time and time again said “for me sex is meaningless without love.”

It’s a sad day for humanity, for women, when you all CHOOSE to like a man who does the things you say he does. It’s sickening. You actually believe that Rob APPRECIATES having people like you associated with his name? You think he is PROUD to have people use him as an excuse to hate someone he cares for?


That’s really what it’s all about for you. It’s all about hating Kristen. What? Want to deny it? Explain the fact that the Kristen threads inside PRsten have almost TWICE as many posts as Rob’s. Or, why don’t you explain why you all take issue with Rob fansites that include Kristen in their posts. You don’t screech to high hell if Reese, Emilie or Sarah is included. Why is that? Justify that. Oh, wait. You can’t.


Your double standards and mismatched theories are pathetic attempts at easing your troubled minds. You paint the WORST picture of Rob. So tell us. WHY ARE YOU HERE? Why do you claim to be a fan of Robert if that is who you really think he is?


Maybe you should focus on the real issue. Your total and complete misery with yourselves. Why would you want to be a part of something, EVERY DAY, that brings you such anger and frustration? You think there’s a light at the end of that tunnel? When? 2013? Do you really want to be this unhappy in a fandom for more than a year? Deep down, you know. You know that it won’t end for you. Not as long as Robert chooses to be with Kristen. As long as HE CHOOSES. Because nobody is forcing him to do anything. And THAT is what really kills you.

Luck Be a Lady...

Disclaimer: This was originally written prior to today’s TF1 interview. You know, the one where Rob said that he was in London last week. Pardon us if we ramble a bit more than usual. 

Oh ninnies, ninnies, ninnies. What would we do without the screeching ninnies as our form of amusement? For some reason, they are under the clouded impression (aren’t all of their impressions a bit clouded?) that they “won” something this weekend during the Paris “Breaking Dawn” promo tour.

Won what, exactly? The Publisher’s Clearinghouse Prize? An appearance on the game show “Dumb Bitches?” A brick of cheese? (Cheese does make one constipated and full of shit, you know).

We guess we didn’t realize that not having Kristen at a promotional event meant there was some kind of contest going on. It wasn’t a contest when Kristen went to Australia and parts of South America with Taylor and NOT Rob, so why would THIS be any different?

Ohhh! Because Rob put his hand around Ashley during a photo call? Because Rob and Ashley whispered to one another during a fan event? Because Ashley smiled up at Rob while on the carpet?

We’re not sure how that makes a difference. Rob has done those things COUNTLESS times with Kristen, both on and OFF the red carpet. Somehow, ninnies fail to see this each and every time.

They want to take some furtive glance or whispered moment between Rob and Ashley and turn it into something it’s not. One single whisper can compare and compete with the countless whispered moments between Rob and Kristen at how many events, and inside how many papped car windows, and on how many airport tarmacs?

And you really want to do a side-by-side comparison?

We’ll give you side-by-side.

Call us when Rob looks at Ashley like this.

Come back when Rob holds Ashley this close during parties.

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Do Rob and Ashley’s whispered moments involve this amount of laughter, or nuzzling?

Does Rob hold Ashley’s hand on the airport tarmac, or in a car?

Does Rob enter the stage for a fan event and look like he just got caught with his hand in Ashley’s cookie jar? 

No, no and no.

DID ROB SAY HE WAS IN LONDON LAST WEEK? YES!

Rob does that kind of thing for his family, which includes Kristen, the girl to whom he is “my English boyfriend.” That’s English, as in from ENGLAND, where LONDON is located.

He does all of these things to such an extent that during the Paris fan event, one person even told him “Kristen is so lucky.”

And Rob’s response? A shy, but sweet smile.

Now, some ninnies would have you believe that Kristen isn’t such a lucky girl. In fact, they downright question this fan’s definition of lucky.

Why, may you ask? Because they see Rob as someone other than the doting, committed boyfriend that he is.

Some people, ninnies especially, see the fact that he hasn’t visited Kristen on the SWATH set (*cough*) as PROOF that they are not together. Per his own admission, Rob was IN LONDON last week. And just when did the #SWATH directors put a clam-down on all social media from the set? Oh. Last week. How convenient. “It’s so obvious.”

On and on the ninnies go about how he hasn’t visited Kristen on set (see above), or hasn’t whisked her away for a romantic weekend (she’s been working), or hasn’t been spied out of the country. Cue TF1 interview soundbite:  ”I was just in London last week.”  Does he not have other pulls in England, such as his immediate family and an entire pack of friends? If so, would he not be there for them, too? Perhaps, just perhaps, his CURRENT obligations as an actor working hard to step beyond “Twilight” makes him feel he needs to stay in L.A., you know, read scripts, take meetings, write, and set up a home for himself (and perhaps his significant other, too). In other words, be the man that he is growing up to be by taking responsibility for his own life.

And he is learning, per his own admission, that L.A. is growing on him, that he can, in secluded hills and small out-of-the way places, find some semblance of privacy away from crowded pubs and paparazzi-infested streets. Perhaps someone - who happens to have grown up in L.A. - is teaching him that he can enjoy a quiet, private life in the heart of Hollywood.

And as for time and distance? That doesn’t matter if you are committed to someone.  


Many vocations require that one partner in a committed relationship be gone for long stretches of time – deep water fishing, long-distance trucking, international business or relations, and perhaps most importantly, the military. Long times and distances apart in no way means the commitment is not there.

In today’s age of instant communications, many couples weather the distance and time exceedingly well, especially when each person in that relationship knows that they each must make sacrifices in order to reap the rewards at a later time and date.

So, is it really that far-fetched that Rob would stay home and keep the home fires burning, take care of his dog, work on his own career, even if it means he has to let Kristen go off to his own home country to film?  Of course not. No more than it is far-fetched that Rob is capable of sneaking in and out of airports without being detected. If he wills it so, it CAN happen. BTW, HE WAS IN LONDON LAST WEEK.

One friend of BWAN told us that while she and her husband were dating, she was living on the East Coast while he was on the West. They dated for three years, only seeing each other every few months before settling down to marry; and this well before the days of IM and skype. Time and distance mean little when the heart knows what it wants, and Rob’s heart has shown us time and time again that it wants Kristen.

Proximity does not guarantee a good relationship. It never has, and never will. But such common sense is continually lost on the ninnies, who don’t want to see the truth even though it’s smacked them in the face at least 347,000 times by now.

How else is Kristen lucky? Well, according to ninnies, Rob only takes her on group outings, not real dates. Haven’t there been sightings of just the two of them in Soho Club, at random restaurants in the LA area, while out clothes shopping at vintage stores, enjoying sushi dinners in New York, or taking long weekends as California resort hotels? And what about the countless nights in, or nights secreted off to a private dining room somewhere outside the prying eyes of the paps, or any twitter hounds? Are you saying it’s not possible? L.A. restaurants and clubs know all too well how to cater to the privacy needs of their clientele, and we’re certain Rob and Kristen are very well-versed in navigating just that system.

And what young couples don’t like to hang with other friends, who are also young couples?

In Europe, and England especially (Rob is ENGLISH, you know), it is quite common for people to go out in groups. There is a vast cultural difference between the US, where people “date,” and in other countries, where group outings are more the norm. Why wouldn’t Rob want to surround himself with the people that mean the most to him – ALL of them, including Kristen, with whom he has shared so many of his ENGLISH traditions, including trips to Isle of Wight for the holiday? Summit free, of course.

But again, this doesn’t help the ninnies in their attempts at winning. At all.

Neither does the fact that by having Ashley at the promo event, Summit is not able to “sell” the PR-relationship between Rob and Kristen. Oops. Guess they didn’t get that into the contract.

Of course, the ninnies’ favorite rationale as to why Kristen is such a lucky girl comes from one of Rob’s own quotes, you know, the one from the April, 2011 Vanity Fair where he said his dog Bear was his soul mate?

Oops. Haven’t we seen that somewhere before?

http://www.digitalspy.com/celebrity/news/a332009/ryan-gosling-my-dog-is-my-soulmate.html

Rob is notorious for throwing out strange and often misleading utterances under pressure, especially in print interviews.

Unlike Kristen, who is often censured for her raw honesty in print interviews, Rob tends to take a more absurdist approach, and is more adored for it, even if what he is talking about comes of as inane ramblings to casual readers (who can forget “I’m allergic to vaginas.”)

So by Rob declaring that Bear is his soul mate in no way means that he hasn’t found a deep and meaningful romantic relationship with another human, namely Kristen. Nor does it mean that Kristen is any less lucky for having him in her life.

In fact, to most reasoned people, we’d think that having a career-supporting, friend-sharing, and dog-loving man as your significant other would make you very lucky, indeed.  Especially if he visited you in London last week.

Keep trying, ninnies. Your “winning” isn’t working.

Oh, and Vanessa. We’re still waiting on that “English” lesson.

Affectionately,  The Flaming Cunts.

Double is the NEW Standard

If your name is KRISTEN and you're papped on set smoking a cigarette, while on break from filming a movie, you're a famewhore. 


If your name is KRISTEN and you're papped coming and/or going through an airport, ANY airport (and your name is Kristen), you're a famewhore. 


If your name is KRISTEN and you're papped after you've had a fender bender and are trying to deal with that, you're a famewhore.


But announcing your engagement to the guy you've only been seeing for 2 months during a red carpet walk for an internationally aired awards show, pasting pictures of your fiance on your fingernails, then SELLING your wedding photos to a glossy gossip magazine? No. Not a fame whore at all. 

Meltdown? What meltdown? There's no meltdown here.

Can you hear it? That pitiful wailing? It’s the sound of Orcs finally gone completely and unequivocally mad.  It’s what we call desperation, ladies and gentlemen; desperation resulting from the unprecedented meltdown of an entire side of the fandom. Now, we over in SanityLand knew this day would come. We were sitting back on the patio, legs kicked out in front of us, sipping on our martinis, just waiting for the day when the truth would indeed, will out. And out it has, from a most unexpected source.
For those who have managed to avoid any type of entertainment or social media over the past sixteen hours, here’s a brief refresher.

Yesterday, Kristen’s interview with the UK edition of Gentleman’s Quarterly was released, and in said interview, it was revealed that *gasp* Kristen and Rob are in a relationship (really?). In short, the reporter reported (because that is what journalists do, report) that Kristen said during the previous day’s photo shoot, “my boyfriend is English.” Now she didn’t say this to the reporter directly, but it was an off-handed comment that the reporter caught and reported upon (see above where I say that that’s what reporters do). When called on the carpet about it during the interview, she blanched, realized she’d been caught, and after discussing the merits and pitfalls of the computer age and google searches, said pointedly, “I mean, it’s like, come on guys, it’s so obvious.”

Yes, obvious. Obvious to the thousands of fans who have been able to see the mutual attraction between Rob and Kristen for over three years now.  Obvious to those who possess even an iota of common sense. Obvious to those who are able to think beyond the mere surface of things and see the truth behind people’s words and emotions. Obvious for those who understand why Kristen and Robert have remained so guarded in revealing things about their private lives. As Kristen reiterated to GQ “That’s mine! And I like to keep whatever is mind remaining that way.” This isn’t the first time she’s stated she doesn’t want to talk about it in order to not “feed the fiending.” (And yes, she was referring to BOTH sides of the fandom).

But that didn’t satisfy the ninnies. Their excuses flew at a rapid-fire pace. One would think the world had collapsed in on itself the way the ninnies were screeching on and on. And on.
That’s what happens when truth is confirmed and one’s entire belief system is set aflame.
Now, you would have thought the ninnies would have better prepared themselves for this day. Alas, they’ve ensconced themselves so tightly in the tiny Island of Denial, and have stood so solid in their position  that when push FINALLY came to shove, that there was nothing to do but suffer calamitous break-down.

But instead of dealing with things in a rational manner, the ninnies do what ninnies do best when faced with crisis, they hurled insult after insult at Kristen. Why? Because they are mad at Rob, and their expectations about him and who he is in their lives, were finally, and absolutely, shattered. Classic cognitive distortion.

Let’s break it down one-by-one, shall we?
“I’m just gonna pretend this didn’t happen.”Isn’t that what nonnies have been doing since, oh, circa April, 2009? That’s what we thought. Keep trying.

“GTFO! The entire world doesn’t want to know you. Just your psycho fans.” And you read the article because? Once again, you prove yourselves to be more OBSESSED – yes, we say OBSESSED, with Kristen, than with Rob himself. If you really don’t care, then DON’T FUCKING READ. Or, as Kristen herself would say “get off my dick.” As we’ve stated time and time again, no one is forcing you at gunpoint to read articles about her, or go see her movies, or have anything to do with her. YOU ARE MAKING THAT CHOICE BY YOURSELF (do the shouty caps help get that point across?) If you don’t want to know what she has to say, don’t read about it. But, if you really want to keep torturing yourself, go ahead. It makes for GREAT entertainment.

“GQ has joined the rest of the magazines that have sold out to make money.” Um. Hate to burst your bubble here, but what, exactly, do you think magazines are in business to do? Impart culture and wisdom upon the ignorant masses? Only if you are The New Yorker or The Economist, perhaps. The publishing industry is one of the most cutthroat industries there is. Circulation numbers are critical to survival, and one editorial misstep can mean not only a loss in advertising dollars, but loss in reputation, as well. And as more and more print publications are closing their doors due to burgeoning online presence (596 closures in 2009, according to MediaFinder), the industry faces excruciating pressure to make it work. If GQ is a sellout for putting Kristen on the cover, then Vanity Fair and Details are sellouts for putting Rob on theirs. Touché.

This goes back to “The List.” Remember “the List?” The interminable inventory of people, actors, directors, media folk, friends, artists, etc., who, because they like Kristen, or say something complimentary about Kristen, are automatically deemed unworthy and untouchable by the ninnie fandom? Get over yourselves. Next.

“I looked some stuff up and there is a long line of celebs who said they were misquoted in GQ.” That’s all you got? *snort*

“…if she had been preaching this shit from the get go MAYBE i’d buy it but to come in mid stream…sell it somewhere else sister. Not buying it here.” Remember Wyck Godfrey, Twilight saga producer? Remember what he said about the risk of having his two mains fall in love because if they were to break up during filming it could be detrimental to the filming process? Then why, in the name of Edward Cullen himself, would anyone want that confirmation while filming was still taking place? The “PR” truth, if there is to be one, is that Rob and Kristen were told, “don’t go there,” but they told the studio to fuck off. Then when the studio realized they couldn’t stop the inevitable, they said “go ahead, but just keep it on the downlow.”
So now we get a confirmation – AFTER FILMING IS OVER. In the rational world, this makes perfectly good sense.  Because in the rational world, where studios ARE IN BUSINESS to make money, they don’t want things to jeopardize their cash cow, and that means having the star attractions keep their private relationship on the DL so as not to interfere with the process. As we noted a few posts back, Rob and Kristen are the “Anti-PR.”

Were this a truly PR relationship, they’d be foisting it about like Kim Kardashian. They’re not. There’s a reason. Move on.

“WTF. She’s saying her teachers failed her? Poor, entitled baby. What a bitch!” If you would look at the quote again, she said the teachers didn’t want to work with her and her erratic schedule. Think about it. In an overly-crowded southern California public school, where teachers are already taxed to the max, it is not likely many really would be willing to step in and do more work for the benefit of a single pupil. It’s not a dig on the teachers per se, but on the system that creates an environment where they are grossly underpaid and overworked.

According to the National Center for Education Statistics, in 2007, approximately 1.5 million children were homeschooled in the United States. Children are homeschooled for a variety of reasons, including religious, cultural and based upon their geographical location to a school. For many parents, the traditional public education system is simply not good enough. Their parents want a broader education, or perhaps one where there is more religious guidance, or cultural input and/or emphasis on math and science.

The bottom line is, Kristen is not the first child – nor actor – for that matter, to be pulled out of an unsupportive public school system and taught at home.   

“Her English boyfriend is Marcus.”  *stutters speechless*

“Her boyfriend could be any English guy…” *facepalm*

“I still think she’s a lesbian.” ORLY? Please provide us PROOF of this assertion. Tomboy? Yes. But once again, ninnies are using a stereotype and forming it to fit some perception they have of a complete stranger. She dated Michael Arangano for close to four years. Was she a lesbian then? What, exactly, has she done to prove to you that she is a lesbian? Please see our last post where we clearly show that using “she’s a lesbian” as a means of cognitive dissonance is a reflection on your own latent homophobia, and is an insult to the entire homosexual population.

“Kristen can talk about her [sic] english boyfriend all day long but I can’t hear her over Rob going out to bars and clubs every night.” Have you not read the tweets, seen the reports? In each and every one of those he is either described as being “alone,” or with a group of guy friends. The Nonbert trolls at the AT boards may want you to THINK he is slutting himself around (and is that what you prefer for him?), but he is remaining chill, setting up a home and working in L.A. while Kristen is away filming. It is the way many couples have to deal (and not just in Hollywood), and it is how Robert and Kristen are dealing, too.
“If you look at the hashtags, it’s a lot of people talking about how awesome [sic] british guys are, or things that [sic] british guys do, or making fun of the interview, with a few sporadic posts about KStew.” Let’s talk about how trending topics work, especially those that are not associated with a specific event or product (e.g. #Iran, #DWTS, #iPhone5, #WorldCup). From BWAN’s Public Relations Guide for Dummies, Chapter 7: Social Media Hashtags that are more vague in nature start off because of one particular action or event. As the hashtag is spread, and more users pick up on it, the meaning itself changes based upon the comments of each individual tweet.

The fact that ninnies even need to speak to this is, in and of itself, proof of their utter desperation.
And finally, we THINK this is our favorite, but we just don’t know:

“…Objects are English. People are British. Gives new spin to *that* quote (that wasn’t actually a quote).” Please stop insulting us with your base level of education and show us where you got THAT rule. It doesn’t exist. There is no prescriptive grammar directive that relates “British” to people and “English” to things. It may be the way you view that from your experience, but we know plenty of English folk who prefer to remain just that, English. We also know people who are happily British and English. Ask any South American, or Mexican, whether or not they are American, and they’ll tell you “yes,” even though they are not a citizen of the United States.

It’s almost as good as comparing dListed’s Michael K to a “logical” member of the “media.” *cough sputter cough*

So, that, dearest BWANians, is just a quick overview of the hilarity that comes from the ninny mind, especially when it is in breakdown mode.
Now, if they would just crawl back into their fetid hole and stay there.